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         modern
        and postmodern
        
        - the
        difference
        
         
          
        about
        three years ago I was speaking with a friend and they asked if I could
        explain the difference between modern and postmodern culture. 
        I started to explain the difference, only to find myself
        tongue-tied, floundering for words and using those most creative
        connectives like “umh,” “well,” and personal favorite “ahh.” 
        my floundering was not based on not knowing the difference – I
        knew the difference, I live the difference; my floundering was based on
        not being able to give voice to those differences. 
        you see, I had spent so much time “knowing” what it meant to
        be postmodern, (internalizing all I knew), that I never even considered
        the possibility of “explaining” what it meant to others (giving
        voice to what I knew).
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        many
        of us fall into that same trap. 
        we know what we feel; we know what we know. 
        but “knowing” and “voicing” are two very different
        things. 
        knowing is "self serving" at best, while voicing is
        "selfless serving." 
        "to know" is the start of self-development, but
        "to voice" is to help others develop and walk a similar path. 
        remember the movie, “mad max, beyond thunderdome”? 
        at the end when the young girl is sitting in the burnt-out
        building with all the others surrounding her and she says, “It’s
        time to tell the telling.” 
        giving voice to your understanding of postmodern culture is being
        able to “tell the telling.” 
        your being able, and my being able, to “tell the telling” is
        allowing the narrative of our culture to take flight and develop into a
        powerful “telling” to help change lives.
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        I
        am uncertain exactly where I heard it, if I read it or even if I
        imagined it, but when I can to this simple realization – my voice came
        to life – I was able to “tell the telling.” 
        what was that realization? 
        Simply this, the difference between modern and postmodern culture
        can be found in the difference between two tv show – star trek
        and star trek; the next generation; similar, but vastly different
        in all parts of the “telling.”
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        let’s
        center on one main charter from each show – spock and data.
        
         
         
        
        
         
        look
        at spock, half vulcan/half human, and he spent most of his time fighting
        to subdue the ever “ill-logical” human half, and trying to bring to
        life his “better” vulcan half. 
        for whatever reason, reason, logic, and intellect had better
        appeal to him then human emotions. 
        I can remember when I was growing-up my cousins (who were older
        then I) use to play “star trek.” 
        they use to fight over who was going to be spock. 
        spock was the coolest. 
        I, on the other hand, being one of the youngest was always
        delegated to playing “a nameless crewman” which meant I was going to
        be killed by the klingons as soon as the game started – family, go
        figure. 
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        data,
        on the other hand, was the perfect machine, reason, logic, and
        intelligence; and he would have given it all away for the opportunity to
        be human - to experience the deep pains of human emotion. 
        his striving to be human is the perfect model of the postmodern
        culture. 
        he knew his abilities were important, yet he sought after the
        human emotions that spock ran from (never really succeeding). 
        data knew that human qualities based on the diversity of human
        emotion were important and could only add to his being.  he saw
        that science truly "solved" nothing, but interaction between
        people could bring about change and growth. 
        data sought to make new friends, even though he had no idea how
        to go about it, while spock was content being by himself with a “close
        friend or two.” 
        data saw the value of experience and emotions, while spock say
        the value in reason and logic.
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        we
        could work-up a complete list of the differences between spock and data
        to compare modern and postmodern cultures, but eventually, like all
        metaphors, it would break down and become “silly.” 
        in your own mind I am certain you can develop a solid list for
        your own voice – for your own “telling.”
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        while
        I do not want to go deeper into the spock/data thing, I have created a
        list of items I believe show a radical difference between modern and
        postmodern culture and you can find that list can be found at the end of
        this paper. 
        but there is one very important underlining factor to this whole
        process and that factor is this: the difference between modern and
        postmodern is not age or demographics – meaning to say, it is not a
        generational thing, or an ethnic thing.
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        over
        my experience (a very important point in the postmodern world) I have
        met some very postmodern 60 year olds, and some very modern 30 year
        olds.  with
        the realization that “generation X” turns 40 in the year 2001
        (1961-1980) and “generation Y” turns 20 (1981-2000) the year 2001
        will produce a new generation not yet named and the church needs to be
        ready for them. 
        If we only think in terms of putting people into “happy little
        groups” we miss the communities that form around idea, heart and
        passion. 
        We miss the possibilities of looking at people, not
        “generations” and saying “You matter to me, and you also matter to
        God.”
        
        
         
         
        
        
         
        general
        characteristics:
        
         
        I
        hesitate to write a general list of characteristics,  mainly because
        modern people see lists as central to being part of a group; while
        postmodern people see it for what it is, a list – nothing more and
        nothing less - and that not all people fall into the list that was
        created. 
        it does not make you part of a group, it does not exclude you
        from any group;  it is just a list. 
        Here is a group of characteristics I see in a postmodern culture.
        (some of these characteristics are "secular" in nature - for
        example, the way they view sin and salvation is based on a secular
        understanding - I am not saying that a postmodern believer does not
        believe in salvation, we do)
         
          
        
          
            
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                 Modern  | 
              
                   
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                 Postmodern  | 
             
            
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                 Ministry  | 
              
                  
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                 Program
                Driven 
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                 People
                Driven 
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                 Language
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                 Machine
                based and economically driven (“Time is money.” “The
                wheels of progress turn.”) 
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                 tech
                based and metaphorically driven (“I’ll drop an e to you this
                weekend”) 
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                 Knowledge
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                 Based
                on Reason – intelleo ut credam – I Understand in
                order to Believe. 
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                 Based
                on Experience – credo ut intellegam – I Believe in
                order to Understand. 
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                 Truth 
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                 Linear,
                and founded on absolutes and “objective thought” 
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                 Circular,
                and found in the life narrative. 
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                 World
                View
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                 Metallic,
                a disjointed group of mineral and economic possibilities, based
                on boarders and political systems. 
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                 Organic
                – living and filled with connective communities at all levels,
                boarders are not important. 
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                 Culture 
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                 Mono-cultural 
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                 Multi-ethnical 
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                 Planning 
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                 Plan
                for all possible events, minimizing the possibility of making
                mistakes – mistakes are unacceptable. 
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                 Mistakes
                are human, and we can not plan for all possible outcomes - know
                where you start, and map a journey - all people map a different
                journey 
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                 God 
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                 Only
                believe if you can “prove” God is real 
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                 God
                is real, just tell me why I need to accept your truth over the
                truth of another 
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                 Church 
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                 Church
                is the building – even though they claim it to be the people. 
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                 Community
                is the church, in and out side of the building.  we are
                looking to be engaged, included, and inspired 
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                 World
                view 
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                 See
                the “natural” division of “secular” and “sacred.” 
                Something’s belong to God, and other things do not. 
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                 Sees
                no difference between “secular” and “sacred.” 
                Everything belongs to God  Have
                a deep understand Pop Culture – seeing no difference between
                the sacred and the secular 
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                 Structure 
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                 Rigid,
                committee driven and top down. 
                Change is hard, and long in coming. 
                anything seen as new is viewed as “problematic.” 
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                 Flexible,
                and from the bottom-up.  Open
                to new ideas and a willingness to implement them quickly, and
                change directions if needed 
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                 Pastoral
                Staff 
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                 Seen
                as “the purest of the pure” and is not allowed to make
                mistakes, of any kind.  
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                 Seen
                as human, and is allowed to make mistakes without fear of being tagged  
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                 Sin/Salvation 
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                 Believes
                in Salvation, but not in Sin - basically everyone is good 
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                 believes
                in Sin, but not Salvation - do not agree that "sins can be
                forgiven" the challenge is to teach the saving grace of
                christ. 
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                 family
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                 family
                is defined by mom, dad and 2.5 kids.  family does not
                extend to friends.  family is more important then friends 
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                 come
                from broken homes – “broken” does not mean “good” or
                “bad.”  friends are very important, and considered
                family 
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                 friends
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                 a
                few "close friends" - it is better to have one close
                friend, then 100 acquaintances  
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                 want
                to become a whole person and live in peace with others
                
                
                . want to
                experience community
                
                .  want to
                make a difference in peoples lives.  feel
                disconnected from others, and even themselves
                
                . they are
                searching for a safe place where they can make friends  | 
             
            
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                 media
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                 don't
                get it, and just don't want to 
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                 Are
                Media Savvy, but not Media Manipulated 
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        the
        challenge is to figure a way to introduce the postmodern person to Jesus
        as Savior - knowing that the same old stuff, will not work. 
          
                john o'keefe
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