Paul
a disciple of Jesus of Nazareth
1.
What do you think of Postmodernism?
What
i see in the emerging church is some powerful and ancient
ways of bring to life the message of Jesus Christ,
and that excites me. The message being
brought to hurting people in need of a grace and
love that has not been expressed in the modern
church is a powerful reminder that Jesus is the
Christ. The old modern way of doing this is
just not working anymore. So to see things
with a new eye on Christ is exciting and refreshing;
so what do i think of postmodernism? as long
as it shares Christ with the world and gets people
excited about worshiping our creator God - i like
it.
2.
How do you find the state of the church today?
What
church? As i look around, I don't see a
church! If I walked into your town today,
what church would I find? How many groups of
people claim to be "the church" in your
town? Look around. I would say, on
average in most larger towns, you would find 8
kinds of Baptists, 4 kinds of Lutherans, 3 kinds
of Catholics, 5 kinds of Presbyterians, 5 kinds of
Methodists, 3 other "Reformed" denominations
and a hand full of smaller and non-denominational
church each claiming to have gotten it right, and
all preaching against one or the others - so,
where is the church>
I
gave a metaphor that the church was the body of
Christ. Each denomination claims to be that
body, while some claim to be part of that
body. But for a healthy body to live, all
parts must be working together. No part can
work independent of the other. How far
do you think you can walk if one leg wants to move
to the right, while the other leg wants to go to
the left?. How long do you think you will
live if the hands refuse to feed the mouth; or the
ears, or eyes, refuse to share a warning of
danger? There is no
"church." There is no "body
of Christ." You don't have a body, you
have a twisted, dysfunctional, disfigured, misshapen,
thing you call religion.
3.
When it comes to the law, how should we live?
You
can't, law does not bring life; so you can not
"live" under law. The Law Contract
of Moses has been fulfilled in the person of Jesus
Christ. So, like any contract that has been
fulfilled, it is no longer binding, we no longer
live by the Law of Moses. Now we have a
"New Covenant" with God, a "new
contract" is you will, where we live by the
grace and guidance of God and the Holy
Spirit. Living under grace is not easy, yet
it is the easiest way to live - let me explain.
Living
under grace is not easy for those "paper
lions" who like to tell you how you must
live, act and what rules you must follow.
These people set themselves up to be the only ones
who can give true "interpretations" of
the law. When you need to do anything in
your life, you need their approval; they tell you
if what you are doing is right or wrong. But
that is not their place. The one we go to
for all understanding of our life is Jesus
Christ. But those who like to be in control,
don't like the idea of freewill in the hearts of
those who follow Jesus Christ, because they want
to be in control.
It
is easy, because we can trust God and the Holy
Spirit to work in our lives; but this requires
things from us - like trust. We need to
trust that God is truly speaking to the hearts of
those he called to follow, and we need to trust
what God is saying to us. We need to be
open; open to the power of God in our lives and in
the lives of others. We need to be communal;
community supports and uplifts - and that is what
we need to be doing.
When
we live by law we look for the mistakes others
make and judge them for their faults. What I
have noticed about the hearts of those who follow
the law today is that when one falls - they attack
like animals feeding on a weaker prey. When
someone falls, you jump in for the kill; you rip
them apart; you leave them for dead and you walk
away. not very Christ like if you ask
me. In a letter i wrote to the Romans I
explain the final reality of "the law"
is to love other people as you love yourself - the
problem that I see is that many people who become
"paper lions" don't even like who they
are - so they treat others the same way.
4.
So, how do we handle those who say they are a
believer, but don't think the way we do?
Why
do you want to "handle" anyone?
You make it sound like everyone must think the
same way, and have the same "code" or be
at the same place - why? How about this,
welcome them with open arms! Don't jump on
them because they see things different, or they
don't repeat the same code you have. Let
them be who they are, let their lives share their
understanding of their faith. They may be
strong in opinion, and weak in faith, but let God
work in them on His time not yours. You see,
you must get along, you must accept one another
and up-lift each other. You are all striving
for a common life in Christ, so strive together as
a family.
5.
How do you see leadership in the church today?
To
start with I would have to say that I do not see
leadership in the church today. I see people
who want to be CEO's, Governors, Centurions and Controllers,
but I do not see many leaders. No one in the
church is a "leader" everyone is a
servant - and our master is Jesus Christ.
The way humans see leadership is not the way God
see it - God sees servant. People willing to
give their lives for others; people willing to
give everything they have to help others; people
who are willing to give from their poverty to help
others receive riches. I remember two very
dear friends who were having the same problems
with people who appoint themselves to be
"masters;" Timothy and Titus. In
both cases i gave them a list of the qualities of
a good "leader." Not just a good
"pastor" but a good "leader"
of anyone who is helping to guide the earthly
church. If you had a copy of those letters
you would see that in both cases they qualities
are for a good servant - one who will go out of
their way to help others. Oh, how i wish
those letter could have survived the ages, and you
could read them, then you would see what I mean.
6.
Some "church leaders" keep telling us
that we can not do certain things because it could
cause a brother to fall, or make people think ill
of the church. How should we handle this?
I
know, and they have been using that to control
people for centuries. Here's the scoop; if
we say, "You can't do this or that because it
will make a weaker brother fall" we need to
place it in context of reality. If my eating
meat, or drinking wine, or staying with sinners
causes a person to question me about my faith,
great - i have a chance to share the Gospel
message with them in an honest and direct
way. But I have news for all you polyester
leasure suite wearing, bible thumping, over
bearing, single minded back door preachers and
church leaders who are so out of date it's scary -
i think you have caused more people to leave the
church, or not even come in the door of the church
- then anyone having a drink of wine with some
friends - you drive them out and way in
droves. So, when i say "causing a
brother to slip" - i do not mean having a
glass of wine, or even a bottle of wine - i mean
"what's your theology doing to the heart of
God's people" - think about that for a while.
7.
How do you think we are doing?
I
remember once standing on Mars Hill in Rome and
speaking to a gathering of people. I looked
at all the "gods" they had created and
noticed one called "the unknown god" -
then it hit me, they knew of God but did not know
God. I have a felling, if I was standing in
your church today I just might teach the exact
same lesson.
Any
final thoughts?
Don't look around for answers, look up.